[LCA2015-Chat] #IStandWithLinus

Aimee Maree aimee at aimeemaree.com
Mon Jan 19 15:43:38 AEDT 2015

Just to re-iterate I did not say the community is behind it please do not links my words in such a way the articulation that I pointed to was how @shanley account is stating it is the Linux community and because she called out Linus and has linked the article on her to it... So simply pointing out what is online all I did was a small chronology of the events incase people where unaware of the article link and the timeline etc no opinions where presented just what can be assessed using timelines etc and also what is being said on forums etc 

But yeah welcome to American propoganda use of a hashtag I was doing support for Mozilla during the Eich incident let's just say it gets nasty and toxic and best to not enter into it it will die down once it loses heat they always do....


> On 19 Jan 2015, at 3:20 pm, Amanda Jackson <amanda.jackson at lca2015.linux.org.au> wrote:
> I'm reading the threads but avoiding responding/using the hashtags. Was disheartened to see gamergate linked to on some of the IStandWithLinus threads as that really is very toxic and, in my personal opinion, should not be in any way associated. 
> Also, hashtags can be all over the place and are difficult to pin down, our use of lca2015 vs LCA2015 is a prime example (as in Linux Conf Australia vs. Live Cam Awards). 
> From what I've read on the arstechnica comments, most responses have been very reasoned, logical and non-aggressive, so I can't imagine that any of the Linux community are behind threats to shanley. 
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Aimee Maree <aimee at aimeemaree.com> wrote:
>> All I know is shanley started mentioning things on twitter in a reaction to the LCA appearance... However since then it has blown out into another aspect of an article referring to her past as she used to have ideals that go against diversity to say it diplomatically...
>> http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/17/i-taught-shanley-kane-how-to-troll-and-im-sincerely-sorry/
>> Since then she has started to say that the article happened because she attacked Linus.... Her and her family etc have been doxed and she is blaming the Linux community is as much as I know....
>> From my analogy the istandforlinus is in reaction to her and not LCA thread.... But who ever knows in the ever growing use of hashtags in American propaganda anyways personally staying away from both threads aka shanley and the istandwithlinus as the environment is quite toxic....
>> Regards,
>> > On 19 Jan 2015, at 1:03 pm, Lana Brindley <mail at lanabrindley.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 19/01/15 11:49, Russell Coker wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015, sio at tesser.org wrote:
>> >>>> Now inspired by the #lca2015 discussion there's a #IStandWithLinus
>> >>>> discussion which has more than a bit of overlap with #GamerGate.
>> >>> I wish I'd had the foresight to not open that. -shudder-
>> >> One thing that's interesting to note is that "gamers" are saying things like
>> >> "Bloggers who have produced NOTHING feel qualified to criticize the open
>> >> source community?".  I really doubt that the GamerGate community includes a
>> >> single person who has made any contribution to Linux comparable to Matthew
>> >> Garrett.
>> >>
>> >> A significant portion of #IStandWithLinus is about attacking Shanley.  I think
>> >> it's noteworthy that they spend more effort attacking a woman than actually
>> >> doing what they claim to be doing and defending Linus.
>> > I'm trying to work out if the #istandwithlinus hashtag grew out of his appearance at LCA directly, or if it happened indirectly through the arstechnica article. I also can't tell if @shanley was reacting to the LCA appearance, or something else. Anyone got any clues? (hoping to grow a blog post out of this, if I discover I have something important to say about it).
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