[LCA2015-Chat] #IStandWithLinus

Amanda Jackson amanda.jackson at lca2015.linux.org.au
Mon Jan 19 18:04:34 AEDT 2015


I wasn't  linking your words.  They were my own separate words.  Apologies
if you construed it that way.

On Monday, January 19, 2015, Aimee Maree <aimee at aimeemaree.com> wrote:

> Just to re-iterate I did not say the community is behind it please do not
> links my words in such a way the articulation that I pointed to was how
> @shanley account is stating it is the Linux community and because she
> called out Linus and has linked the article on her to it... So simply
> pointing out what is online all I did was a small chronology of the events
> incase people where unaware of the article link and the timeline etc no
> opinions where presented just what can be assessed using timelines etc and
> also what is being said on forums etc
>
> But yeah welcome to American propoganda use of a hashtag I was doing
> support for Mozilla during the Eich incident let's just say it gets nasty
> and toxic and best to not enter into it it will die down once it loses heat
> they always do....
>
> Regards,
>
> On 19 Jan 2015, at 3:20 pm, Amanda Jackson <
> amanda.jackson at lca2015.linux.org.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amanda.jackson at lca2015.linux.org.au');>>
> wrote:
>
> I'm reading the threads but avoiding responding/using the hashtags. Was
> disheartened to see gamergate linked to on some of the IStandWithLinus
> threads as that really is very toxic and, in my personal opinion, should
> not be in any way associated.
>
> Also, hashtags can be all over the place and are difficult to pin down,
> our use of lca2015 vs LCA2015 is a prime example (as in Linux Conf
> Australia vs. Live Cam Awards).
>
> From what I've read on the arstechnica comments, most responses have been
> very reasoned, logical and non-aggressive, so I can't imagine that any of
> the Linux community are behind threats to shanley.
>
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Aimee Maree <aimee at aimeemaree.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aimee at aimeemaree.com');>> wrote:
>
>> All I know is shanley started mentioning things on twitter in a reaction
>> to the LCA appearance... However since then it has blown out into another
>> aspect of an article referring to her past as she used to have ideals that
>> go against diversity to say it diplomatically...
>>
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/01/17/i-taught-shanley-kane-how-to-troll-and-im-sincerely-sorry/
>>
>> Since then she has started to say that the article happened because she
>> attacked Linus.... Her and her family etc have been doxed and she is
>> blaming the Linux community is as much as I know....
>>
>> From my analogy the istandforlinus is in reaction to her and not LCA
>> thread.... But who ever knows in the ever growing use of hashtags in
>> American propaganda anyways personally staying away from both threads aka
>> shanley and the istandwithlinus as the environment is quite toxic....
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> > On 19 Jan 2015, at 1:03 pm, Lana Brindley <mail at lanabrindley.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mail at lanabrindley.com');>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 19/01/15 11:49, Russell Coker wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 19 Jan 2015, sio at tesser.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sio at tesser.org');> wrote:
>> >>>> Now inspired by the #lca2015 discussion there's a #IStandWithLinus
>> >>>> discussion which has more than a bit of overlap with #GamerGate.
>> >>> I wish I'd had the foresight to not open that. -shudder-
>> >> One thing that's interesting to note is that "gamers" are saying
>> things like
>> >> "Bloggers who have produced NOTHING feel qualified to criticize the
>> open
>> >> source community?".  I really doubt that the GamerGate community
>> includes a
>> >> single person who has made any contribution to Linux comparable to
>> Matthew
>> >> Garrett.
>> >>
>> >> A significant portion of #IStandWithLinus is about attacking Shanley.
>> I think
>> >> it's noteworthy that they spend more effort attacking a woman than
>> actually
>> >> doing what they claim to be doing and defending Linus.
>> > I'm trying to work out if the #istandwithlinus hashtag grew out of his
>> appearance at LCA directly, or if it happened indirectly through the
>> arstechnica article. I also can't tell if @shanley was reacting to the LCA
>> appearance, or something else. Anyone got any clues? (hoping to grow a blog
>> post out of this, if I discover I have something important to say about it).
>> >
>> > L
>> >
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>> > writer:speaker:blogger
>> > http://lanabrindley.com
>> >
>> > "Quantum mechanics: The dreams stuff is made of."
>> >
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